God's Hand Over World By Selwyn Duke

Really, I must be a glutton for punishment.  During the past couple of weeks, I wrote two articles on libertarianism and made the point that for a law to be just, it must have a basis in morality.  These commentaries evoked quite a response, ranging from lauding me as brilliant to lambasting me for not having two brain cells to rub together.  And the negative responses were most notable.  For daring to mention morality and law in the same breath, some implied I was like the Taliban, one respondent called me a “neoconservative” and a blogger said I was a socialist (yes, really, yours truly!).  Pretty funny that, when talking about a man who proposed the Defense against Tyranny Amendment.

Now, to review the morality/law nexus in brief, I previously wrote (I recommend reading the first two pieces, here and here, for background), "…a law states that there is something you must or must not do, ostensibly because the action is a moral imperative, is morally wrong, or is a corollary thereof [emphasis added].  If this is not the case, with what credibility do you legislate in the given area?  After all, why prohibit something if it doesn't prevent some wrong?  Why force citizens to do something if it doesn't effect some good?"

In response, libertarians emailed me and said that they didn’t impose morality but rather prohibited “force,” protected “property rights” or prevented “harm.”  But unless one objects to governmental use of force to apprehend a murderer or citizens’ exercise of self-defense, moral distinctions must be made.  Moreover, we couldn’t credibly prohibit force, protect property rights or prevent harm in the first place unless unjustly using the first, violating the second or causing the third wasn’t “wrong.”  Ergo, morality.

Another argument I heard was that not all law reflects morality; the example given was law mandating that we drive on the right side of the road.  Yet this is where the “corollary thereof” part comes in. Without such a law, more people will be harmed in accidents, and we believe it’s “wrong” to allow people to get harmed.   

To be fair, a couple of libertarians (one of whom is running for office) wrote me and stated that their informed ideological brethren understand that law must have a moral basis, such as the “non-aggression principle.”  Yet, while I realize many different conceptions of libertarianism exist, absent an authoritative “Church of Libertarianism” to establish official dogma, I have no choice but to draw my conclusions from libertarians’ consensus pronouncements.  After all, there are textbook/dictionary definitions of liberalism that sound pretty good, too, yet they describe no liberals I’ve ever met.  I live in the real world; if you seek a denizen of textbook dream-world, I suggest you visit your local college campus.  

And if you look at these pronouncements, something becomes clear: The problem here isn’t just one of libertarians but of moderns themselves.  It is a deep problem that concerns not just the nature of man’s law.  It concerns the nature of morality itself.

And, certainly, someone is confused.  Some respondents said it was me, and one quoted Ayn Rand, writing, “A code of values accepted by choice is a code of morality.”  But think about what this implies.  Hint: The idea isn’t merely that it’s not moral to impose morality, but that it isn’t morality if it’s imposed.

So let’s start an analysis of the nature of morality.  I ask you: Who or what determines what we call “morality”?  I addressed this in “The Nature of Right and Wrong,” writing, "[There are only two possibilities:] [e]ither man does or something outside man does.  The idea that man determines right and wrong is known as 'moral relativism'; this means that morals are relative to the time, place and people.  The idea that right and wrong are determined by something outside of man is known as 'Absolute Truth.'"

And, of course, the latter implies God.  After all, if we’re saying that “Truth” is something existing apart from man, is inerrant and that we must abide by it — which means it’s above man — what are we actually describing?  But, now, what are the implications of relativism?  I continued:

… [Moral relativism] states that morality is determined by man; what is rarely recognized, though, is that if this is so then there is no right and wrong, objectively speaking.  Think about it: If 90 percent of humanity said it preferred chocolate ice cream over vanilla, it wouldn't mean that chocolate was "right" and vanilla "wrong." Nor would it mean that chocolate was better in any objective sense — it would simply mean that people happened to like chocolate better.  It's illogical to say otherwise.  But would it be any more logical to say that murder was wrong for no other reason than the fact that 90 percent of all people preferred that others not kill in a way that we call unjust?  Of course not.  But if the idea that murder is wrong is simply a function of man's collective preference, it then falls into the exact same realm as the collective preference for a type of ice cream: the realm of taste.

Now, the Founding Fathers, men much admired in libertarian circles, understood this well.  They realized that if man is the measure of what is called “morality,” then it is merely opinion and based on nothing but air.  This is why George Washington stated, “Let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion.  Reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle.”  It is why James Madison, known as the father of the Constitution, said in 1785, “Religion is the basis and Foundation of government.”  And it is why the framers emphasized that men’s rights are “endowed by their Creator,” as it is this — and only this — that could make them “unalienable.”  A person has a right to life not because some government somewhere thinks it’s cool, because it might cool on the idea 10 years hence.  Rather, it can only be a right because there is that eternal, unchanging moral injunction “Thou shalt do no murder.”  (Note: “killing” isn’t necessarily murder and can be justifiable in self-defense or during the prosecution of a just war based on “The Principle of Double Effect.”)  So the truth is that the founders would have been confused by only one thing in my block-quoted explanation and asked, “What is ice cream?”

Thus, to whatever extent and in whatever way the founders were libertarians, they were not libertines.  The truth is that today’s average secular libertarian has as much in common with those “classical liberals” (the actual political-science description of the founders) as modern liberals do.  In fact, how many degrees of separation are there between most moderns and the founders?  Probably about 24 — the number of the 56 signatories to the Declaration of Independence who held seminary degrees. 

If you libertarians feel unloved, I’ll emphasize that you didn’t invent relativism; it is the characteristic philosophical mistake of our time, with a poll sometime back showing that even 62 percent of so-called “Christians” don’t believe in Absolute Truth.

The latter fact is ironic, too, since relativism is joined at the hip with secularism.  And this is why the Sultans of Secularism, from Richard Dawkins to Rand (yes, Atlas shrugged and Rand slipped), do their dance of self-deceit.  They don’t want to come to terms with the implications of their atheism, with the meaninglessness of it, that its corollary of moral relativism negates any and all ideas about what is a right life, a right law, a right government, or a right right.  For it would all be taste.  Yet neither will they accept God’s existence and dominion.  So in an effort to lend the atheistic world view meaning and construct a moral foundation within it, they wiggle and jiggle, twist to and fro, jump through hoops and over hurdles, doing intellectual contortions extreme enough to create a sideshow between their ears.  All this because they insist upon trying to create the tree without the roots.  And this has been done many times — but it is always an artificial tree.

And it begets a superficial life.  It is thus not surprising that Objectivist Ayn Rand once said, “Nothing existential gave me any great pleasure.  And progressively, as my idea developed, I had more and more a sense of loneliness.”  No doubt.  The reality is that Jeffrey Dahmer, when he was a brutal serial killer, had a better understanding of philosophy than tree-without-roots secularists such as Rand.  For, when he was a teen he stated to his parents, “If there’s no God, why can’t I just make up my own rules?”  Now that is Objectivism in action.

As for lawmaking in action, to recognize that true leaves cannot exist without the roots isn’t to advocate descent into nanny-state nightmares; it is just to express an obvious truth.  And it’s one that people obviously are rationalizing away.  But why do they do so?  Pride is a factor, of course, as is attachments to long-held ideology.  Another factor, however, is that many people believe that if they acknowledge the morality/law link, it will open the door for the legislation of an excessive number of values.  And while I understand their fear, they have it exactly backwards.  Insofar as our government does legislate — which should be a rare occurrence — it must impose morals, not just “values” (which can be positive or negative).  For it is only when government imposes morals residing within its legitimate domain that laws are just; when it imposes merely values, they may be unjust.  But how can we ensure it will be the former?  Well, we must first be in touch with moral reality.  Only then will we understand when and what the government should be legislating.  But there is little hope society at large will understand something if a social-pressure gag order is placed on discussion of it.  This is why I emphasize understanding every aspect of this matter: the nexus between morality and just law; the immorality of excessive law; and, first and foremost, understanding what morality actually is.  Because to deny reality for fear it could be twisted is itself a twisting of reality — and the consequences are likely just as severe.

And doesn’t history bear this out?  Note that there were relatively few laws in far more Christian, “Bible-thumping,” morality aware early America.  Yet, as our society departs from discussion of morality and the concept itself — even replacing the term with “values” — laws proliferate.  It’s no surprise, either.  How can we expect those unschooled in morality (liberals, for instance) to understand the immorality of excessive lawmaking?

So people who want Rand can have her.  I’ll side with George, James and the rest of those Taliban, neocon socialists of dead-white-male fame.

    This article was first published at American Thinker

          © 2010 Selwyn Duke — All Rights Reserved

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10 responses to “Yes, Folks, We All Would Legislate Morality (Psst, Even You Libertarians)”

  1. Dan Tolleson Avatar
    Dan Tolleson

    Where politicians fear to tread, Selwyn Duke confidently wades into the one-sided intellectual echo chamber of our time to point out the sine-qua-non moral foundations of our country.
    He logically demonstrates that the Libertarian (a)moral code necessarily spells the end of our Constitutional Republic.
    In addition to the Founding Fathers and Chesterton, Alexis de Tocqueville also pointed out that without religion and its binding moral codes — liberty is impossible. Libertarians just haven’t figured that out yet.
    Thrashing about in the amoral vacuum of our contemporary intellectual atmosphere, most American citizens oscillate between abject cynicism and naive wishful thinking.
    Only the revival of our moral heritage — specifically, the national recognition of the non-negotiable character of God’s 10 Commandments — will enable American citizens to revive our Constitutional Republic and to live according to God’s will.

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  2. Angel Avatar
    Angel

    Superbly written. I, for one, believe in absolute truth.
    Libertarians don’t believe in force? Yet they believe in the constitution. The right to bear arms, protect ones self,home and property…what is that but force?
    Laws cannot be made without morality. The knowledge of absolute truth of right and wrong. It does happen to come from God. There are only two forces controlling this world. Good and evil. Many will find this out at a latter date I’m sure. If it doesn’t coincide with the laws of God, it is evil and immoral. Such as abortion, homosexuality, and the government stealing from the taxpayers.
    If one would go back and read the bible in its entirety, they would realize that under God, there is much more freedom than we have right now in the whole world combined.

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  3. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    I have probably been a Selwyn reader and I guess fan longer than anyone here. Rarely do I disagree with his points but I am disappointed at the depth of understanding, and the stereotyping of Libertarians, in the article and the remarks following. I have a hunch this new blood lust towards libertarians is the fear of a split ticket, and a commie victory at the polls by default. If so, this tack is the wrong way to combat that threat. This is the way to insight libertarians to split the ticket. I would recommend a different tack. First, learn what libertarianism is; don’t just make your assumption based upon a few college kids.
    Secondly I spurn the interjection that libertarians are amoral and are all Ayn Rand bots…that is BS!!! Although I do enjoy Ayn Rand’s economic philosophy, it does not mean I think her religious or moral philosophy is correct.

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  4. Robert Berger Avatar
    Robert Berger

    The problem with the question of legislating morality is that not every one agrees on exactly what is moral or not. Of course,no right-minded person could ever justify the actions of a man who abdicted,raped and brutally murdered a little girl.
    That’s obviously a heinous crime. But other matters are simply not black and white.
    I’m not the kind of straw man moral relativist you like to caricature here,Selwyn. I don’t believe that there’s no such thing as right and wrong,and that people should be free to do whatever they want to with no restraints and total impunity. It’s hard to think of any one who actually holds such an extremist viewpoint.
    But simply because I and other like-minded people disagree with you and other conservatives on certain issues of morality does not make us “moral relativists”. Libertarians basically believe that people should be free to do whatever they choose to as long as it does not harm any other person or interfere with their lives or harass them.
    What is so unreasonable about this? This philosophy just says”live and let live.”
    The private lives of gay people do not harm me ,a heterosexual and they mind their own business. So why should the government deny these people rights or persecute them?
    If some people want to buy Playboy or Penthouse magazine,does this hurt other people? There’s no evidence that it harms any one else,so why do some conservative want these magazines banned?
    About 90 years ago,some self-righteous people who believed that drinking alcoholic beverages was immoral were able to get the government to initiate prohibition. What good did that do? These people were legislating morality.
    The problem with rigidly moralistic right-wingers like you is that you think you have a monopoly on truth and virtue,and you’re determined to impose your
    morality on every one else.
    And you use the foundinf fathers as an excuse to do this,which is extremely disingenuous.

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  5. DW Avatar

    Very nice article, I too warned of libertarian vs conservative rumblings via http://blog.politca.com/2010/08/12/glenn-beck-the-socially-conservative-cautionary-tale.aspx I as well no longer consider myself a conservative but a traditionalist as the deffinition of a conservative changes with each election, absolute right and wrong however never changes.

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  6. john bailey Avatar
    john bailey

    A group in New Guinea had never seen a white person before, and they concluded that these folks must be “gods”….particularly when one of them shot and killed a pig with a gun. That perceptual concept persisted until one of the natives observed a white person to “shit”, then they concluded he must be the same as they were. We then can conclude that all humanity are the same in many respects, except for their habits, customs, beliefs, etc. Morality and the perception of what is right and wrong is a product of development of a “conscious”….without a “conscious” our ability to discern and determine what is right and wrong is markedly reduced. The development of that conscious, from our frame of reference, has depended a lot on the teachings of the Bible, and our Judeo-Christian perspecive. So, to be “good” is to reflect these teachings, and to be “bad” is to go against them. If there is no good or bad recognition, we become essentially, psychopaths.

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  7. Philip France Avatar
    Philip France

    Selwyn Duke has written as good a declaration for the value of morality and moralism as one could in secular terms.
    I will be more blunt: God, the Creator of the heavens and the earth is the sole author of morality. PERIOD. Any other suggestion is arbitrary, at best.
    The Bible, God’s Holy Word and our “owner’s manual” for life, individuation and mutual coexistence is the answer. It contains every answer to the challenges that we, the created, face.
    Let me take this one step further.
    Many individuals view The Bible as a set of rules, mixed with some historical text and some devotional text.
    Wrong.
    The Bible, God’s Word, is a LOVE story.
    That’s right. It is an epic story of the love of our Creator to his creation. Christ Jesus is the hero of this love story. He is the subject of The Bible from Genesis to Revelation. You find him in each of the books of The Bible.
    The Old Testament defines the sons of Jacob as the bloodline and race that would produce the Messiah. Its historical references shows the lengths that the Creator would take to protect that bloodline. The genealogies demonstrate and document the origins thereof as well as the birthright.
    What are (inaccurately) referred to as The Gospels (the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John) are more properly placed in the Old Testament and under the previous “covenant” – that of Jehova in covenant relationship with “His” people”. It is the biography and documented ministry of a man that walked the earth roughly 2,000 years ago. A man in whom all of time is reckoned by all men (anno domini).
    The new testament, or the covenant or contract between the Creator and his creation began on The Day of Pentecost in the first century. This day commemorated the fullness of time in which the resurrected and ascended Messiah gave the Gift of Holy Spirit to all men. Thus, mankind had the ability and opportunity to reconcile himself with God, with the Lord Jesus providing the privileged access. A deeper study of this can be found by comparing the Biblical/Genesis terms “formed”, “made” and “created” with the (also) Biblical terms “body”, “soul” and “spirit”.
    The understanding of these simple concepts have been besmirched over the years, owing somewhat to man’s laxity and negligence, religiosity, tribal protectionism and much more. It owes mostly, however, to Satan and his imperitive that you NOT know this.
    Reconciling my comments to Selwyn’s article, I applaud him as correct. Morality can be defined only by the designer and the Creator for that which has been created. Anything less is, at least, anarchy and at worst tyranny. History has demonstrated this and proven this since the very first words were committed to stone tablets.
    To my friends and fellow-human beings that identify yourselves as “libertarians” I suggest that you re-read Selwyn’s series of articles juxtaposed against my comments here. I will be more than happy to further your understanding of God’s Word through immediate and personally-directed dialog.
    To my Jewish friends (and fellow-human beings). I respect that your devotion to our Creator is restricted to The Torah, The Talmud and concludes with the prophecies of the Prophet of Malachi. To this I state that your Covenant with Jehova is every bit as valid today as it was when God gave His law to Moses.
    Until and unless we, as advanced human beings, reconcile ourselves with God and his laws (morality), we are on a death-spiral.
    I, for one, know how this will end. Stay tuned.

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  8. Philip France Avatar
    Philip France

    To all readers at SelwynDuke.com, I implore you to take the opportunity to listen to the sermon found here:
    When the webpage loads, scroll the left side and look for the title “Stream”.Under the “download” heading. choose “VBR M3U” and then sit back and enjoy the greatest 40 minutes that you have yet to experience.
    http://www.archive.org/details/TheRedThread
    In my opinion, this is the greatest sermon EVER regarding our Heavenly Father and His Holy Son, our dear Lord and Savior.
    May our Heavenly Father, through the grace and Lordship of, and in the name of his Son, our Lord grant each and every one of us wholeness, healing and eternal life.
    Blessed forever and amen.

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  9. Matt Avatar
    Matt

    Of course Burger, you miss the point. The point is unless you legislate morally, all rules are simply arbitrary and boil down to “me no likey”. And you are in fact no better than us “rigidly moralistic right-wingers”
    And your own words betray you.
    “Of course,no right-minded person could ever justify the actions of a man who abdicted,raped and brutally murdered a little girl.That’s obviously a heinous crime.”
    begin satire
    How dare you push your morals on everyone else! Saying its a “heinous crime” to abduct, rape and murder someone! Thats legislating morally!
    end satire
    And like a moral relativist, you smuggle in moral terms.
    “I don’t believe that there’s no such thing as right and wrong”
    And how do you ground what is “right” and “wrong”? You cant. As someone who clearly doesn’t believe in a God, you lack the tools to do so. Can you say its not socially advantageous for people to go around raping, stealing and murdering? Yes, you can. Can you say someone shouldn’t do it because it is the incorrect thing to do because the established law says that you can’t do it without social reprisal? Yes, you can. Can you say that you shouldn’t do it because its “wrong”? No, no you cannot.
    “About 90 years ago,some self-righteous people who believed that drinking alcoholic beverages was immoral were able to get the government to initiate prohibition. What good did that do? These people were legislating morality.”
    Will you make up your mind? Do you want people legislating morally “its wrong to rape, steal, murder, and if you disagree, you’re wrong”? Cause you claim to know there is a difference between “right and wrong”
    Or would you rather people legislate on what is socially adventagious since quote from you “The problem with the question of legislating morality is that not every one agrees on exactly what is moral or not.” Ok, its not adventagious to rape, steal, and murder. Cool. Oh look, here comes a man named Adolf Hitler, he thought it was socially adventagious to exterminate the jews and take over the world, oops.
    Ok, shall we then legislate by what the social consensus of right and wrong is? Most people think its wrong to rape, steal and murder. Cool. So far so good. OOOPS here comes Hitler again, he convinced enough people that it wasn’t wrong to exterminate the jews.
    The point is, well, you are just wrong. Your logic just ends up having more holes than swiss cheese, and the logical conclusions lead to some not pretty places. Legislating morally is the only legitimate way to legislate. Otherwise its pure subjective opinion. And you seem to take great exception to people “forcing their morals on you”, when you would do the same to a thief,rapist,murderer.
    One last thought, yes, religious people do have a monopoly on what is right or wrong and morality. Because you have none whatsoever. And any you THINK you have, you have borrowed from us. All you have is nature, which is survival of the fittest and who can spread their seed.

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