10 responses to ““Gay Pride” Parades, Nudity, and Nihilism”

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   Cristina

   July 4, 2013

   And there are still some candid souls out there who say that is not possible legislate morality!
   It doesn’t matter how much depravity a law might have in itself. Sooner or later (sooner, usually) the masses will give up. When the masses give up they are accepting de facto this depravity. They are embracing the new morality. Hence the rising number of spectators and participants in those annual abject spectacles of debased human behaviors (children included)

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   Robert Berger

   July 4, 2013

   Cristian, the vst majority of gay mericns do not nbehave like this in public . But do you want to go back to the bad old days when gay people lived in fear of being found out, losing their jobs,
   blackmailed as they often were by unscrupulous people, being sent to mental institutions to be “cured” of their homosexuality by brutla electric shock “therapy” and even lobotomized ?
   This was very common until about 50 years ago.
   The vast majority of gays are just ordinary people who mind their own business and bother or threaten no one . The vast majority do NOT molest children, and in fact, most child molesters are HETEROSEXUAL .
   Many mean-spirited Americans not only want to deny gay people the right to get married , but to serve int he military , which they actually from the very beginning everywhere on earth , to raise children , be in the Boy Scouts and even to teach in public schools . What next? Concentration camps for them ? (I’m heterosexual myself, but abhor bigotry against gay people.) According to right-wing jerks like Selwyn Duke an dhis ilk, “All men are created equal-except for homosexuals “.
   Stop demonizing gay people !

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   Cristina

   July 4, 2013

   Robert, first of all, it’s Cristina, female. And you know what? Yes, I’d like to go back to the time when homosexuals were ashamed of their deviance. Because, homosexuality it is a deviance. Now, about prosecuting them, firing from jobs, lobotomized and all the other scary things you are describing, and I’m not sure they happened that way, no, I don’t want the homosexuals punished just for being homosexuals. The same as I do not want to be punished with the degrading spectacle of the homosexuals behaving as animals in front of us, heterosexuals. It is a slap in our face. I’d be happy to see them punished for immoral public behavior at the taxpayer expense, though.
   Finally, the homosexuals do not have rights to marriage, to rise children, to be in the Boy Scout, to teach children or any other of the claims that are so commonly hear nowadays. No because bigot Americans are against them, Robert, but because those are not rights. Those are privileges and should be earned individually and according to the law of God.
   Imagine that I’m a very ugly woman, but all the sudden I decide that I have the right to marriage.
   Would you marry me, Robert?

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   Cristina

   July 4, 2013

   “According to right-wing jerks like Selwyn Duke an dhis ilk, “All men are created equal-except for homosexuals “”.
   You go, boy! Never let anybody to say the homosexuals are not created equal. However, you should send the memo to the homosexual lobby, you know, those who say they were “born that way”. That way is a different one as how I was born. Ergo, according to the homosexual lobby, they were not created equal. That’s not fair.

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5. 

   Robert Berger

   July 4, 2013

   Sorry, I accidentally misspelled your name because of a finger slip . There is no reason why gay people should not be allowed to get married, teach in schools, raise children , seve in the military or be in the Boy Scouts . Not just because SOME people are prejudiced against them.
   And yes, many WERE subject to th eawful treatment in America which I mentioned .
   Nobody is forcing you to watch gay pride parades .
   Long gao, many stupid ,narrow-minded, intolerant and self-righteous Americans were just as opposed to allowing blacks and whites to marry, blacks to serve in the military , and blacks and women to vote. They used the same old specious arguments you and other conservatives use today, about this being “”against God’s will”, and an “abomination” to allow these things . Did these things “destroy” America ” ? Of course not .
   And what right do Christians like you have to shove your Christianity down the throats of non-christians like me ? NONE ! And to demand that certain people be dined the right to do certain things just because YOU happen to disapprove of their lifestyles ?

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6. 

   Cristina

   July 5, 2013

   “There is no reason why gay people should not be allowed to get married, teach in schools, raise children , serve in the military or be in the Boy Scouts”
   Yes, there is a reason, several reasons actually. Marriage is the union of one man and one woman. Any other combination is not a marriage. A homosexual couple cannot produce a child, they need to buy the children, opening the door to human trafficking. The homosexuals should not be allowed to rise children because that is against the child rights, as per UN declaration (all children have the right to have a father and a mother). The homosexuals should not be allow to serve in the military because it is against the best functioning and cohesion of the military (not a trifle thing). Same with teaching in schools and with the Boy Scouts, where the homosexuals will serve as example for other boys.
   “Nobody is forcing you to watch gay pride parades .” Right, but I’m paying it with my taxes nevertheless.
   Blacks and whites? Really? Black and white are created equal, exactly the same as homosexuals. The difference is in their behavior. If you put human beings in groups according to the color of their skin you are committing a sin and this sin was corrected in America, at least nominally. Blacks have privilege that whites have not (affirmative action) If you put in different categories people according to their behavior you are preserving the wellbeing of the whole society. The group contravening the norms accepted by the majority of the society is not entitled to special treatment, praise and encouragement.
   “And what right do Christians like you have to shove your Christianity down the throats of non-christians like me ?”
   I am not forcing you to do anything, Robert. It is the other way around. You are forcing me to accept as normal a deviance, an abnormality in the human behavior.
   Once again, those demands (marriage, to teach, to rise children) are not rights. Those are privilege. You didn’t answer my question. Would you marry me?

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   Robert Berger

   July 5, 2013

   Legt’s fce it; Cristin; you are bigoted aginst gay people. All the negative thing syou’re saying bout them were debunked long ago. Mny youngsters are currently being raised by gay couples, and they are turning out just fine .There is not one shred of evidence that being raised by gay parents is in nay way harmful to children, and it’s far better than being raised by BAD heterosexuals, which is not uncommon .
   Gays serve openly in the military all over Europe and in the Israeli military with absolutley no problems. This has had ZERO negative effect on their military . Gays adopting chldrne has NOTHING to do with choild trafficking .You don’t pay taxes for gay pride parades . I ,however, and other non-christians have to pay a lot of taxes to support Christina churches , which is WRONG .
   Gays have fought in every war in world history, often with great valor . Madam, you ar efull of it, and don’t know what you’re talking about. I don’t hate you for your bigotry. You have been brainwashed and indoctrinated into being hostile to gay people. You can unlearn this and leanr to be tolerant,however. I repeat – I’m NOT gay myself . I just abhor bigotry against gay people .

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8. 

   Cristina

   July 6, 2013

   “All the negative thing syou’re saying bout them were debunked long ago. “
   False. Fifty years ago nobody was considering how good or bad would be to rise a child with two men or two women as parents. The number of studies about this crime against a child is too small to have any statistical significance whatsoever. The innumerous studies about the impact of bad heterosexual parenting is so because the heterosexual, univocal marriage has been the norm for centuries. Then, all the studies have been done around the normal family. By the way, the solution to a bad thing should not be another bad thing.
   “Gays serve openly in the military all over Europe and in the Israeli military with absolutley no problems.”
   Except for Israel, where the survival of the whole country is at stake every day, the other military forces are charity enterprise and little more, always relying in the really tough guys, the USA Armed Forces, for guide and effective resolutions of every conflicts.
   “Gays adopting chldrne has NOTHING to do with choild trafficking .”
   Yes, it does. Just wait until the homosexual couples couldn’t find a child with this or that physical feature, or simply there isn’t enough children available in the adoption market and you’ll see. If there is a source of children through the black market, and sadly that scenario is very likely, they will go into it for their “deserved” child.
   “You don’t pay taxes for gay pride parades . I ,however, and other non-christians have to pay a lot of taxes to support Christina churches , which is WRONG .”
   False again. Once I paid my taxes, the government is free to use them at will. Who do you think is paying for the homosexual parade if not the taxpayers? Homosexual unions? You do not pay to support Christian churches. Nobody does. The churches are tax exempts, as are other no-religious organizations. That the government it’s not collecting some taxes from a special group is not the same as us being paying taxes to support this group. The money not collected is ours, not a property of the no tax-paying entity, whatever it may be
   “I don’t hate you for your bigotry” What a relief!
   “You have been brainwashed and indoctrinated into being hostile to gay people.” Better to keep this information between you and me because my homosexual friends will be really mad at you.
   “You can unlearn this and leanr to be tolerant,however.”
   Do you really think that possible? It’s not. You can learn other things, but cannot “unlearn” what you already know. Maybe you mean that I could learn to abjure what I know is true. That won’t happen.
   Given that you think you know me so well, you very well might consider my claimed right of marriage.
   Would you marry me?

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9. 

   Robert Berger

   July 6, 2013

   Maybe, but I think we wouldn’t be compatible because of different views . I’m straight, anyway .

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10. 

    Cristina

    July 7, 2013

    “I’m straight” You has repeated the same three times. Are you trying to convince me or yourself?
    Just consider, before answering my question, my ugliness. I’m just claiming my right to marriage.
    Don’t trouble yourself with our incompatibility. Two months into the relationship and you will be thinking straight, anyway.

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